Matan Even Interview

“ Who is that guy in the plague mask? ” — Josh, unaware of what is about to happen to him

On April 4th, 2025, YouTuber Matan Even interviewed Joshua Block, posting the interview on April 13th 2025 as a YouTube video; "WorldOfTShirts Crashes Out After Matan Tells Him To Put The Fries In The Bag".

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Matan Even is a YouTuber best known for crashing the 2022 Game Awards, and creating comedic content on YouTube. In September 2024, Mr. Based announced a stream with Josh and Matan, which never ended up taking place. The interview would end up being filmed in early April.

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Interview

The interview covers a chaotic mix of topics. Josh discusses his influencer career, claiming to make $420K a year from sponsorships and merch, while also discussing his alcohol usage. He makes bizarre hypothetical statements (e.g., punishing a child for ripping out a teacher’s eye) and insists he’s not banned from Italy despite a prank caller claiming to be the Italian president. The interview devolves into absurdity when masked harassers interrupt, shouting "Put the fries in the bag!" Josh reacts frantically, while Matan accuses "Long Neck" of orchestrating the stunt. Throughout, Josh flip-flops between grand ambitions (e.g., a $20M mansion in Naples) and paranoid rants about online threats.

The following is a categorized list of things done by Josh during the interview.

Self-Identification & Content

• Identifies as an influencer on TikTok/Instagram who travels and makes content.
• Claims his work involves "educating people about New York City" and influencing tourism.
• Denies the claim by Matan that his content is Russian propaganda or intentionally aimed at making Americans dumber, stating he doesn't discuss politics (despite openly promoting and supporting Trump).
• Loosely agrees with the stance that his influence work is roughly as important as teaching and deserves significantly higher pay.
• Denies being an "animal," asserting he is a person like everyone else.

Financial Claims & Goals

• Claims income is around $420k/year, primarily from Parti.
• States that Parti pays $2k/week for 10 hours streaming (approx. $104k/year) but also claims $270k/year directly from them.
• Other income from Cameos, meet & greets, and merch.
• Aspires to make $20 million/year to buy a dream mansion in Naples, Italy.
• Feels his current income is unfairly low given his following and the harassment he endures.

Alcohol Consumption & Views

• Drinks frequently, and assures that everyone his age drinks (23) but admits he "might drink too much sometimes."
  • Assures that everyone his age has had "their alcoholic years"
• Denies being a "full-blown alcoholic" because he sometimes goes hours without drinking.
• Acknowledges experiencing withdrawal symptoms (linking it to stopping his shaking) and often drinks heavily to cope with stress/threats ("forget about it all").
• States he can control his drinking but chooses not to because he's "young and likes to party."
• Plans for future moderation include "just cutting back", tracking intake and potentially doing "Sober October," citing the rhyme as a factor.
• Agrees with Matan stating that heavy Friday drinking by stating the day is named because "you're supposed to fry your brain with alcohol."
• Assures Matan that he will buy him a beer once he turns 21.
• Expressed concern that getting a felony (e.g., buying alcohol for the 17-year-old Matan) would invalidate his passport and prevent travel, specifically mentioning Italy.

Hypothetical Scenarios & Plans

• Punishment for a child ripping out/eating a teacher's eye: Grounded all summer and sent to wilderness camp. Rejects "eye for an eye."
• Claims he would commit suicide if facing a life sentence.
• If TikTok is banned, plans to jump the Mexico border wall, turn himself in, and claim asylum based on the US government taking his job.
• When Matan presents Josh with the scenario of being sent back to the US, and Donald Trump putting Josh in an indestructible cage ("stainless-steel metal glass"); Josh believes he can destroy the cage by kicking it ("every material has a weakness, nothing's completely indestructible"), chemically dissolving it with self-made liquid bromine, or using prison-made alcohol as a solvent.
• Currently does not want children, citing the need for condoms. Also believed that having a baby while in Italy would automatically grant him Italian citizenship.

Legal Views & Actions

• Claims his threats are "empty deterrents" and he wouldn't actually murder anyone.
• Plans to take self-defense classes.
• Initially (and incorrectly) claims the Second Amendment protects him if he assaults someone over words, but later understands self-defense requires physical threat/action.
• Believes he can sue people for bullying/harassment over phrases like "put the fries in the bag," citing ableism and cyberbullying laws.
• Admits to kicking a man (claims he was Hispanic) "in the nuts" and stomping on a car in past incidents, but denies using racial slurs.
• Immediately wanted to sue the individuals in plague masks who accosted him during the interview.

Mr. Beast / Mr. Based Confusion

• Repeatedly clarifies he is friends with "Mr. Based" (Jason), not "MrBeast," explaining "Based" is a confusing marketing name.
• Despite insisting they are different, he occasionally seems confused himself during the exchange.
• Blames Mr. Based for leaking his location, leading to the plague mask incident.

Italy Ban Controversy & Travel

• Strongly desires to live in Naples, Italy.
• Received multiple calls during the interview from "the President of Italy" (a troll with Matan) banning him. Josh vehemently denied the ban, calling the caller "fake," an "imposter," and "bullshit".
• Asserts his US passport allows him to travel anywhere, particularly "anywhere in Europe". Later contradicts himself by saying it allows him into "like 50 countries."
  • Not only is this patently false, but Josh claims he can travel 180 days in Italy, referring to the Schengen visa. This is also false, as it is actually 90 days in a 180 day period.
• Incorrectly believes a ban from one EU country equals a ban from all of Europe.
• Failed to eat a paper note handed to him that stated he was banned from Italy, instead spitting it out.

Safety Concerns & Threats

• Expressed feeling "very unsafe" during the interview.
• Reported receiving death threats (stabbing) related to a planned trip to Montreal, causing him to change his return flight to avoid ambush.
• Worried about passport theft but falsely believes it's secure in his hotel safe.
• Showed extreme fear/panic during the "Put the fries in the bag" plague mask incident (yelling, wanting a lawyer), while Matan blamed "Long Neck" for orchestrating it via Mr. Based.
• Incorrectly believes that Daniel Larson was recently released from prison.

Personal Beliefs & Opinions

• Stated he would use his autism diagnosis to claim discrimination if arrested. ("This is America!") and opposes the death penalty.
• Initially supported fracking without knowing what it was, then opposed it citing environmental reasons, but implied he might support it if he personally benefited financially.
• Supports banning gas cars and electrifying all vehicles and trains.
• Incorrectly believed that LeBron James died in a helicopter crash.
• Denies being racist. (False)
• Was asked why his favorite color was brown, immediately assuring that it was green.